A nice day for boost
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A nice day for boost
The sun came out so I took the opportunity to take the turbo for a run and wax it.
Just need to fix the slow filling issue when at the petrol station and fit less spine crushing rear shocks...
Nice to be back on the road after 25 years!
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Just need to fix the slow filling issue when at the petrol station and fit less spine crushing rear shocks...
Nice to be back on the road after 25 years!
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Re: A nice day for boost
What shocks are they on the rear Ben?
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Re: A nice day for boost
Spax adjustable - I’ve a set of monroe gas ones to try instead
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Re: A nice day for boost
Is it the shocks or springs then?
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Re: A nice day for boost
Pretty sure it’s the shocks. They are not very forgiving. Might try un winding them (if the adjusters will move) and see how it goes.
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Re: A nice day for boost
Can’t wait for my ride in it
1974 Marina Tc Coupe - 1950CC
1982 Morris Ital HL Estate - 7600 miles from new
1992 Lada Niva Cossack - brilliant
2008 Ducati 1098R TB21 LE 200bhp/99lb/ft of a monster on two wheels. All from 1198cc
1998 Laverda 750 Formula-rare
1997 Ducati 916 Senna - Awesome
!974 Honda CD175-awaiting resto - now stripped
1982 Morris Ital HL Estate - 7600 miles from new
1992 Lada Niva Cossack - brilliant
2008 Ducati 1098R TB21 LE 200bhp/99lb/ft of a monster on two wheels. All from 1198cc
1998 Laverda 750 Formula-rare
1997 Ducati 916 Senna - Awesome
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Re: A nice day for boost
looks great Ben
wot about Monroe load adjuster rear shocks I've got and used these and found they stiffen the back end up but still have a good ride
baz
wot about Monroe load adjuster rear shocks I've got and used these and found they stiffen the back end up but still have a good ride
baz
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Re: A nice day for boost
I’d like to tune the suspension based on spring weights and the weight of each corner, rather than fit assisted shocks. Even if it means changing the rear springs.MARINAMADBAZ wrote:looks great Ben
wot about Monroe load adjuster rear shocks I've got and used these and found they stiffen the back end up but still have a good ride
baz
At the moment the hard rear ending is making the front over light at 50+MPH as it only has oil filled Ital shocks since the original spax ones burst.
I will change the adjustment first and see what that does but I feel all 4 corners need the same brand/bound/rebound to make it more supple and safe!
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Re: A nice day for boost
I’ve got Spax adjustables all round and it’s taken awhile to get it right but there does seem a wide range of adjustment on the Spaxs.
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1982 Morris Ital HL Estate - 7600 miles from new
1992 Lada Niva Cossack - brilliant
2008 Ducati 1098R TB21 LE 200bhp/99lb/ft of a monster on two wheels. All from 1198cc
1998 Laverda 750 Formula-rare
1997 Ducati 916 Senna - Awesome
!974 Honda CD175-awaiting resto - now stripped
1982 Morris Ital HL Estate - 7600 miles from new
1992 Lada Niva Cossack - brilliant
2008 Ducati 1098R TB21 LE 200bhp/99lb/ft of a monster on two wheels. All from 1198cc
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1997 Ducati 916 Senna - Awesome
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Re: A nice day for boost
Ben, I have my Coupe’s Spax shocks set on three clicks only at the rear, as any more makes the ride very choppy.
Re: A nice day for boost
Come on guys.
The news has been out for 20 years now.
You need to make your suspension more "compliant".
Softer springs and smarter shocks.
The only way to absorb bumps is to allow the springs to deflect in response to them.
Then you have shocks with good damping to control the rebound.
A shock with a spring on it is an anomaly.
This is why the original double-acting front shocks are a "fail".
They resist the compression of the suspension.
They would function better if they only acted on the rebound..
The news has been out for 20 years now.
You need to make your suspension more "compliant".
Softer springs and smarter shocks.
The only way to absorb bumps is to allow the springs to deflect in response to them.
Then you have shocks with good damping to control the rebound.
A shock with a spring on it is an anomaly.
This is why the original double-acting front shocks are a "fail".
They resist the compression of the suspension.
They would function better if they only acted on the rebound..
A nice day for boost
My original front shocks are valveless and the original 2 leaf springs are just right on the rear. I always disagree with those that try and fit 3 or 4 leafs on the rear.
I think coming from a bike background helps Kilroy-suspension setup is so more critical.
Setting the preload or spring rate so you use 90% of the range ( leaving an ‘emergency’-read big pot hole- 10% ) and then damp the springs to suit your riding style.
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I think coming from a bike background helps Kilroy-suspension setup is so more critical.
Setting the preload or spring rate so you use 90% of the range ( leaving an ‘emergency’-read big pot hole- 10% ) and then damp the springs to suit your riding style.
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1974 Marina Tc Coupe - 1950CC
1982 Morris Ital HL Estate - 7600 miles from new
1992 Lada Niva Cossack - brilliant
2008 Ducati 1098R TB21 LE 200bhp/99lb/ft of a monster on two wheels. All from 1198cc
1998 Laverda 750 Formula-rare
1997 Ducati 916 Senna - Awesome
!974 Honda CD175-awaiting resto - now stripped
1982 Morris Ital HL Estate - 7600 miles from new
1992 Lada Niva Cossack - brilliant
2008 Ducati 1098R TB21 LE 200bhp/99lb/ft of a monster on two wheels. All from 1198cc
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1997 Ducati 916 Senna - Awesome
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A nice day for boost
Absolutely agree with you Kilroy and David.
Rear springs are standard saloon 2 leaf with lowering blocks, plus very wound up dampers. I shall wind these off completely and see how that goes. Will have to save up for a replacement set for the front torsion bar is standard saloon also.
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Rear springs are standard saloon 2 leaf with lowering blocks, plus very wound up dampers. I shall wind these off completely and see how that goes. Will have to save up for a replacement set for the front torsion bar is standard saloon also.
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Re: A nice day for boost
How low can you go...
I wound the adjusters right back, took for a spin and it was a lot better but a little wayward so I’ve now wound them round 1 half. They don’t appear to have a click adjust- not sure if they are just an older model that don’t have one...
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I wound the adjusters right back, took for a spin and it was a lot better but a little wayward so I’ve now wound them round 1 half. They don’t appear to have a click adjust- not sure if they are just an older model that don’t have one...
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Re: A nice day for boost
That rear suspension is spending a lot of time on bump stops, from the picture. The springs and dampers are doing very little to nothing, car has mini rubber suspension. The bump stops should be shortened by the same distance as the lowering block, to maintain original suspension travel. The only problem with shorter bump stops though is wheel/tyre catching the wheel housing/wheel arch.
Dave
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