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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by SLOW ITAL » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:06 pm

MarinaCoupe wrote:I have no idea Bryan. I have always aasumed that they rivetted the chassis plate on at the end of the line. Can anyone help?

Hi Chris
The chassis plate number will be fixed at the same time as the body number,
which is etched/stamped on the scuttle [on my Ital] don't know if its in the same place on the marina.
It was done quite early on i think while it was still a body shell.

I know its a different animal but at L.D.V. it was done at the begining of the build, as soon as it arrived from the paint shop. i assume it would be the same.
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Post by MarinaCoupe » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:27 pm

Hi Gil,

On the Marinas there is a stamped plate with the body number which is spot welded onto the nearside of the slam panel and painted over with the rest of the car. The Marina then has the chassis number riveted to the offside of the slam panel.

My Ital Pickup has the chassis number stamped on the offside inner wing in the engine bay, behind the battery, like your Ital saloon.

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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by MarinaCoupe » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:26 pm

Anorak time - "did you know?" that the last 1.8 DL Coupe was manufactured in August 1973. Obviously a slow seller.

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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by JoshWard » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:26 pm

Very few 1.8 DLs were ever made which is why they are so rare now. I know of two 1.8 DL Coupes and one 1.8 DL Saloon. Even period pictures of them are uncommon, only have 8 1.8 DL saloons in my picture library compared to 64 1.8 SDL saloons and 49 TC saloons.
Got pictures of 8 1.8 DL coupes, 27 1.8 SDL coupes and 40 TC coupes.
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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by SLOW ITAL » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:06 pm

MarinaCoupe wrote:Hi Gil,

On the Marinas there is a stamped plate with the body number which is spot welded onto the nearside of the slam panel and painted over with the rest of the car. The Marina then has the chassis number riveted to the offside of the slam panel.

My Ital Pickup has the chassis number stamped on the offside inner wing in the engine bay, behind the battery, like your Ital saloon.
Hi Chris,

So the body number was put on before painting, [earlier than i thought] & the chassis no
plate must have gone on later, my mistake, but back to Bryans question, even if a car was partly built then taken off the line for shortages, it would have already have its body no
[is that the same as the vin no ?] so wouldn't the build date be when it went on the track?
rather than at the end ? what do you recon ?.

Gil. :-? :-?

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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by MarinaCoupe » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:28 pm

Hi Gil

Good point, it would have to be the beginning wouldn't it as the chassis number/Vin plate dictates the engine and trim level.

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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by MarinaCoupe » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:36 am

The DVLA have simplified the process for claiming Historic Vehicle (tax free) status. Josh will be posting shortly on the club website. The key change is that if the car was registered 1973 then you will be able to do it all at the Post Office using the V5C section 7 without using a V10.

Cars manufactured in 1973 and registered in 1974 still need a Club letter for the DVLA, but certified copies of MOT and Insurance are no longer needed.

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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by PHUQ » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:22 pm

Fantastic- does that mean it doesn't have to currently be taxed to change it? I was going to have to tax Mud (has been off the road for 6 months) to get the taxation class changed to get free tax :lol:
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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by MarinaCoupe » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:27 pm

No need to be taxed, but must have current MOT and Insurance. You'll get the new tax disk from the Post Office.


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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by PHUQ » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:49 pm

Of course- but it means I can MOT her, then sort out my nice free tax disc- my interpretation of the rules previously was that I'd have to buy a disc as normal (once re MOT'd) and then sort out the exemption, surrender the bought tax disc and "buy" a free one! This sounds rather simpler (and cheaper :lol:).

I suspect it might be because the DVLA had a rather large pile of post on the doormat when they got in yesterday morning :clap:
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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by JubileeNut » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:02 pm

Do I get a refund Chris?
Mine all sent off now so should get back the V5 soon.
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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by dialup_2001 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:41 pm

What is everyone getting so excited about! I've had a J reg MK5 Triumph Spitfire for years now!!!

I realised my car is actually a 71 Coupe as well! Very solid car!
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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by Viscount Orange Biscuit » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:03 am

sent my application for the saloon when we got it, had a reply saying would deal with it when it becomes tax free 01 /04 /2014 Tax disc arrived today, not too shabby for DVLA ;)
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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by MarinaCoupe » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:04 pm

Very good


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Re: Goods news if you have a 73 car!!

Post by JoshWard » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:39 pm

Updated article now on the website:
http://morrismarina.org.uk/index.php?op ... &Itemid=35

Apologies for the delay, it's dissertation time at the moment :lol:
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1936 Ford Model Y- On loan from the CCLP
1971 1.3 DL Coupe (VRU362J)
1971 1.8 SDL Coupe (CAE419J)
1971 1.8 SDL Saloon (JHC999J)
1971 1.3 SDL Coupe (CHY79K)
1971 1.3 SDL Coupe (JGC240K)
1971 1.3 SDL Saloon (OVW292K)
1971 1.8 SDL Coupe (MCU274K)
1980 Ital 1.3 HL (NPB34W)

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