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Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:48 pm
by Gee tc
There was a guy featured in a recent Practical Classics who did a Rover 75 coupe.
He grafted BMW 3 series rear roof / window area.
Also he produced the double ended 75 too. For me I'd prefer a 4 door marina saloon converted to a 2 door.
Then put Lotus striping on it
T
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:58 pm
by Morris McKinnon
I do want to have a go at a two door saloon. What are the laws on cutting a car in half to shorten the wheelbase?
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:07 pm
by david painter
Not a lot from what I have seen as long as you own both halves and its done properly may well have to have some sort of SVA / IVA test when you try any change body type on V5C
Dave
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:30 pm
by MarinaCoupe
Hmmm, if you extend the door by say four or five inches and then move the B pillar back by four or five inches to match, you are not actually changing the wheelbase.
Then of course, if you did the same to a Mumford, you could dispense with the the funny side windows, but maybe adapt a Stag roll over bar to compensate?
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:57 pm
by Morris McKinnon
Yes, IVA would probably be needed. I've seen Mini "shorty's" which have obviously been chopped so I guess it can be done. I think the Marina Coupe and saloon have the same wheelbase. Lengthening the front door would probably better as there isn't much sill between the edge of the door and rear wheel arch anyway.
I was looking at pictures of the Allegro two door and glass looks like it could work with some trimming.
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:11 pm
by marinabuoy
I can see the appeal of a saloon converted to a two door, and if the proportions of it ended up looking anything like a two door Escort you might be able to add a nought onto the value of it!
It had occurred to me that the easiest way of balancing out the proportions of the glass in the coupe might be to shorten the whole car by 4 inches or so just behind the B post, but then you'd be loosing your rear seat leg room and the whole thing would probably just look a bit stumpy, not to mention I don't know how shortening the wheelbase would effect steering geometry / ackerman angles relating to wheelbase and all that kind of stuff I don't really understand. Probably not make much difference, but the idea for me really was just to make the coupe look the way the designers originally intended before the accountants got their cost cutting claws into it and decreed that one door fits all.
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Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:33 pm
by Tenner
I managed to dig up a photo of the prototype coupe, I seem to remember several complete cars were actually made, but then the bean-counters did their grisly work. No idea if any of them survive now, any survivors that weren't worn out or scrapped were probably destroyed in that fire.
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:56 pm
by Morris McKinnon
I'm looking at TTM and thinking

I mean, why not? She's a wreck of a car and I have the parts to make it work. It's not a sudden idea I've had, I've thought about it for a long time and I have various sketches and measurements, it can be done quite easily. Plan would be, I'd push the B pillar back a few inches and lengthen the doors to suit. I'd trim and cut some mk3 front door glass for the fixed rear side windows to make up for the loss of the quarterlight and for the front doors I'd try Allegro door glass from a two door, trimming it square so as to keep the Marina quartelight.
To be honest, I'll probably use another car to do this on, preferably a 1.8, but having a bare shell outside where I could just get straight to work on, it is very tempting!
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:18 pm
by Morris McKinnon
By using the n/s front door glass for the o/s rear and vice versa, the mk3 door glass is ideal. It has the perfect profile and only needs a small amount of trimming to fit.
I'm getting excited now, need to calm down

Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:36 pm
by Tenner
What on earth have I done?
Now we need an MG Marina, a Wolseley Marina and a Vanden Plas Marina to complete the set of "what ifs"!

Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:16 pm
by Morris McKinnon
Hmm, MG Marina... two door

Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:00 pm
by david painter
I Have thought about badging my Brown Coupe as an MG when fitted the TC 2lt O Series. Not sure if door glass can be trimmed with it being Toughened Glass but just googled it find if heated to 900 deg F in a oven then allowed to cool for 8 hours it can then be cut.
Dave
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:08 pm
by Tenner
It might theoretically be possible to cannibalise a dead MGB V8 and make a musclecar MG Marina!
Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:36 pm
by Morris McKinnon
ah yes, I forgot it's tempered glass

Re: Should the coupe have looked like this?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:57 pm
by Pont.skins
Tenner wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:36 pm
What on earth have I done?
Now we need an MG Marina, a Wolseley Marina and a Vanden Plas Marina to complete the set of "what ifs"!
They did a one off MG Marina.The last I heard an MG enthusiast had it.