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I've bought (another) Marina Crayford. Problem is that this is only registred as a 2 d saloon (should be coupe) and no mentioning of either crayford, mumford, convertible, cabriolet . This is a serious problem with the norwegian dvla . Last crayford car i tried to register with no mentioning in the Uk papers that it was a convertible is still "in the process" of beiing approved . Soon 2 years since my first contact with the DVLA. Any input on what to do before the car leaves UK.?? looking for some sort of official paperwork that i could show that the conversion is a proper one and not a roof-chop in my backgarden. The car is currently not MOT-able

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Jan,As a matter of interest was this the red one in East Sussex? If so i'm glad it's gone to a good home.

yes the red mk2 in Eastbourne - not too difficult a project , just new wings , front vallance and some patches here & there , maybe new front doors and a quick respray and brake overhaul.

Well done there,absolute bargain,I am only 15 miles from eastbourne if you need anything checking/sorting out on it.Assuming it's still there.

iirc there's a Mumford brochure posted in the Docs forum. Would that help to prove it's a factory approved conversion? Did Crayford's attach any sort of build plate to the cars?

locost_bryan wrote:iirc there's a Mumford brochure posted in the Docs forum. Would that help to prove it's a factory approved conversion? Did Crayford's attach any sort of build plate to the cars?

Thanks for the suggestions
The other crayford that i've been struggling with for 2 years is a vauxhall Cavalier , ive tried press releases from crayford, letter from the crayford club, brochure, copy of another members vauxhall that HAVE the word "convertible " in the v5 and even articles stating that sometimes the conversion were mentioned in the v5 other times not - to no help at all - best thing is to have something official - norway have very strict rules on allowing any modefication at all to cars. So i think anything that could be done beforehand would be the best thing to do ...

Frank/Gary what do you have on your V5s? Coupe, Convertible, something else?

Lots of Marina Coupes were registered as '2 Door Saloons'.

Most Mumfords are registered as '2 Door Saloons' or as 'Coupes' Like the DL/SDL thing it seems it was down to whoever registered it as to what they classified it as

It's also possible that Mumford registered the cars before conversion so they would have been correctly described.

From what I have seen of Gary Dunster's Mumford register the cars were not registered until after they were converted. Some 73 build cars on N reg plates!

All including mine that I've seen have all been registered as 2 door saloons. I know franks is registered as convertible but he changed his I believe...

Yes Jan-Ivar, as Gary said, mine too was registered as a 2 door saloon so I just filled in the changes section on the reg document as a convertible and it came back fine, so I would suggest filling in the changes section at the same time as filling out the address details, with a little luck they will alter it and you will get a correct one returned to you

When you change engines (usually get away with a number change, it's capacity or fuel type that sometimes causes issues), the official line is that you need an "engineer's inspection" which actually means a letter from a garage etc on headed paper. Sometimes (this is from the Land Rover lot, where engine swaps are fairly common due to the "meccano kit" nature of them, so it comes up fairly regularly) you get away without one and sometimes you don't- they've been getting gradually stricter on it. The situation may have changed recently as I've been out of the loop though.

I'd suggest doing as Frank suggests, and if they "bounce" it back at you see if you can get either a local garage to "inspect" it and write you a nice letter to say the conversion is safe and of good quality, alternatively as the club is now recognised by the DVLA and has some authority r.e. tax exemption, another option might be a letter from the club stating that the vehicle is a genuine convertible conversion from an professional company that was just never previously registered as such.

Unfortunately with the DVLA it's very hit and miss as to what response you get for things like this!

One issue that may occur.. Jan-Ivar wouldn't be the registered keeper on a UK V5 since he is not a UK citizen. You would either need the original owner (seller) to make the changes on his behalf, or put it into the name of someone in UK so that all documents can be sorted prior to its export.