*THE MARINA 1300 M.B SPECIAL (the ultimate urban legend?)*

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*THE MARINA 1300 M.B SPECIAL (the ultimate urban legend?)*

Post by The original northen boy » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:56 pm

Well i got told this story again today and i know it really should be on off topic but for any one who has not heard it really is pretty good...
Ok so here goes,........I got chatting to a client today and i told him i had a couple of Marinas,and that's how the story gets started.

Oh the Marina,he said "bloody hell not seen one in ages" he says,my brother-in-law was a copper in the mid-eighties and his mate had a do with a Marina on the A57 Snake pass (a notorious stretch of road linking Sheffield to Glossop/manchester.

The mate is a sergeant in traffic,and had to patrol the A57,well one day himself and his partner are parked up in a lay-by just before the Strines inn taking a break,when a white Marina coupe flashes past them,going like a bat out of hell,good god says the rozzer and heads of in pursuit lights and sirens in full swing.

But as soon as they get near to the Marina it pulls away without a problem,now the pursuit car is a new Ford 3litre Granada a popular choice with the police at the time.and no matter how the officers try they can't catch this fifteen year old car,and to add insult to injury it's been driven by a gray haired old dear,well as the chase hots up both cars are touching the hundred mark in places on some very twisty roads but the Marina corners like it's on rails and the police with their new high performance car and all their roadcraft training can't keep up to a granny in a battered old 1300 Marina,well for mile after mile the race goes on the Granada just cannot keep pace,and some how against the odds the old dear manages to keep on the road without going over the side..

Well the pursuit carries on until all of a sudden the Marina has gone she's has lost them,the plod are not happy that they have been out driven by a pensioner in an old banger,their training and their brand new Harry Spankers motor has been out performed,and they have been out driven.

Then out of the corner of his eye the sergeant sees the car parked up in a drive just off the main road,GOTTCHA he says and races to the house.
They both get out and knock on the door after a while The door is answered by the little old lady driver,"hello" she says can i help you? The sergeant blows a fuse at this response and starts to read her the riot act, we've chasing you for miles don't you know how fast you were going,and you refused to pull over
what were you doing you could have killed yourself and other drivers!

The old lady starts to cry and says " you see my husbands not been well of late and he really fancied some fish and chips from our favorite fish and chip shop in Bamford,my old Mini is in the garage and i borrowed my grandsons car to go and fetch them,i didn't want them to get cold so i drove a little faster than normal to get them back while they were still warm" i'm so sorry.

"Why didn't you pull over when we asked you to stop we had all the lights and sirens going?" says the sergeant,.Well i'm 83 next birthday you see and little deaf so i couldn't hear the sirens and i didn't pull over as i thought you wanted me to speed up, as the road is very narrow and it's not safe for you to overtake and i also thought the lights looked rather nice on your shinny new police car and you were just testing them.

Right says the plod lets take a look at the car,the old girl leads them over to a box standard looking Marina 1300 super de-luxe,"Open the bonnet please" the sergeant says,"where's that" she says, the copper takes charge and opens the drivers door of the car but is greeted with an over powering smell of moth balls and dozens of empty boxes of them littering the car,"what's all this?" says the sergeant....Oh i don't really know but my grandsons says i need to pop a hand full in the petrol tank if a take the car out..
the sergeant pulls the release and his partner pops the bonnet, "Christ on roller skates" he exclaims whats this,he is to be greeted by a full works race tuned engine,sitting in the engine compartment,and in the glove box there is all the paper work about the car and it says,it was a special works car a one-off built to take part in an Alpine rally,but was never raced as there was a change of management and the rally side of British Leyland was discontinued,so the tight winding corners of the A57 is just what it was built for.

Bloody hell no wonder we couldn't catch ya, race engine and suspension this thing is a bloody souped up rally car,"but what all the moth balls about" he asks,sarg,sarg says the partner they have naphthalene in them that the stuff racing cars run on..

Well to cut a long story short,the police were so embarrassed by being out driven by an old woman they just gave her a telling off and thought better to keep thing quiet in case their mates at the station got to hear about the incident..
The story pops up from time to time with different cars,and in different areas of the country used in the telling of the tale..

Well it's true honest :roll:

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Post by ~Sam~ » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:35 am

heh I love the idea of a speed freak granny tearing it up in a Marina! :lol:

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Post by Muskydo » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:06 pm

I seem to recall the "Mythbusters" did the mothball test on one of their shows, can't remember if it made performance improvement, but it certainly didn't do any harm. I've got a box of them in the shed, having bought them to rid my garden of Moles, a Myth I now know from experience does not work!!!!!So perhaps I'll drop a few into the pickups tank and go and hound the boy racers..... :wink:
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Post by The original northen boy » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:58 pm

Now is this or isn't this another urban legend about the somewhat mystical use of mothballs as a cheap performance booster?
Ok so they are two types of mothballs ones that contain naphthalene and the ones that don't we need only to concentrate on the ones that do.
so as a cheap octane booster naphthalene has been used for years but in real terms what does this mean.

Well in theory the higher the fuel octane rating the more potential for obtainable power,most fuel in the UK has a Ron (octane) rating of between 95-98 Ron BP Ultimate has a 102Ron and BP claims that it make a 1600cc engine perform like an 1800cc engine and increases economy.(albeit with a little chemical tinkering)

So if we are to believe the claims of BP that the higher octane improves performance why shouldn't octane boosted fuel via mothballs do the same?

Now again according to the story a 110+ Ron fuel is quite possible simply by adding a few mothballs so what type of BHP gain could we expect ? well again according to legend in power gain perhaps between a 8-12% extra BHP around the same gain as fitting a performance cam,exhaust and filters.

This super fuel should work better with a "B" series engine that were designed to run on higher octane petrol.

How much good this does to your engine i wouldn't like to say,but i'm sure it won't stop some one experimenting with the idea.

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Post by Muskydo » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:50 pm

Just checked out my Balls :wink: and they are little round white ones :wink: :wink: called Dragon Brand original moth balls, and yes they do contain naphthalene! So just for the hell of it the next time I'm down to ¼ tank ish. then I may be tempted to ty out this myth, and experiment with quantities, being an A+ A-Series reliability shouldn't be a problem, although I'm not sure the old dyno engine would fair to good :twisted:
Watch this space, may be some time, but that's a-series economy for you.
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Post by The original northen boy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:30 pm

Ay up Steve,
Back to the Myth busters T.V show i seem to remember that Myth busters didn't debunk the mothball theory they said it was plausible,and said the engine did sound better after the addition of mothballs,so there you go

Not sure how to administer them to achieve the best results or how long they take to dissolve,but will wait for your findings to be published.

Well done Steve a "real mans approach" to the question no messing straight in engine damage?,you just don't care for that I salute you.

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Post by Kilroy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:12 pm

Problem with any of these performance boosters, is how objective we can be to ascertain the results.
An old mate who once owned a single cylinder BSA told me how he and another mate spent their last few bob on some high octane fuel. From the first moment it fired up, they both noticed it sounded different. A brief ride displayed more punch and quicker throttle response.
Then it stopped.
They had forgotten to turn the gas on - so it was of course, still running on the old fuel.
There were no more observations as to the extra performance.
Sometimes its our senses that are running on higher octane..!

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Post by The original northen boy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:33 pm

So what do we think about the claims of BP and their Ultimate fuel?
As you say fellas,you do wonder how much "kidology" is involved in all these products, but we all know what the "CON-sumer" driven marketing industry is all about with it's claims of...cleans better,last longer new improved,the best ever oh the list goes on,now i have been told the advertising industry employs more psychologists than the British National Health Service (NHS) make you think doesn't it?

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