Changing engines for DVLA

[Martec]

I found this on the FBHVC website, weird, is the government and DLVA being sensible?


Changes to engine details for historic vehicles


Posted by admin on 18-02-2011
The bureaucracy involved with correcting or substituting engine numbers on V5C documents and making minor engine capacity changes on old vehicles was discussed in November 2010 at a meeting between members FBHVC’s legislation committee, the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicle Group, the Under-Secretary of State for Roads and Motoring, Mike Penning MP, and two senior officials from DfT and DVLA.

DVLA have now confirmed that this policy has been reviewed and that it will no longer be necessary for keepers of vehicles in the Historic class – date of manufacture before 1 Jan 1973 – to provide evidence to support an engine change notification.

Brian

[JubileeNut]

That means the Jubilee is not in the historic class then :roll:
When are they going to see sense and extend the historic class past Jan 1973?

[vermillion]

Probably a long time coming for that one Paul as the Government will lose too much money in lost tax. They loose a fortune every year as it is through tax excempt vehicles and in this day and age where they are trying to scrape together every spare penny they are hardly likely to give away any more by increasing the number of excempt vehicles on the road. A shame really as I think that there are a lot of cars that should definately be tax excempt, including ours

[JubileeNut]

I think you right unfortunately :roll: :x
But in reality will they loose much?
Plus I think you should pay on how much the car is actually used on the road, so in that way I would be paying about £10 and my other car which is my everyday car would probably half!
Put road tax on petrol.
That will probably give them an excuse to put up petrol prices again but if it is clearly defined then it may work.
Petrol being to expensive is another issue which again we seem to put up with unlike the French :roll:

[d13ker67]

Road tax is so unfair we have a couple of 26 ton trucks at work they are on the road 12 hours 5 days a week and they only pay £250 a year road tax thats less than what i pay for my landrover

[jiversteve]

Drawing comparisons with other countries is dangerous.
Check the AA page http://www.theaa.com/onlinenews/allabou ... ry2011.pdf
Unleaded at the moment, according to them is 134.59 per litre in France. Their deisel is much cheaper though.

I think that the Road Tax / Fuel Tax is a bit bogus.
Fuel duty has recently been increased as has VAT, dont forget that we already pay 6% on your Motor insurance policy!!

The government already Tax fuel at a high rate of 62.4%, and when the Barrel price goes up the Government take even more tax.
If you are putting £50.00 fuel in your tank each week, that is £2600 a year or £1622 Tax.

The problem is we have an expensive hobby and for a 1.8 Marina you would pay £205 Road Fund Licence (Road Tax) for a year.

If a higher rate of tax were put on fuel to account for the loss of Road Tax it would inevitably need to include all of us who have second cars. So everybody would pay proportionally more. So instead of 62.4% we pay at the moment it would rise to around 72% or more.

Inevitably as oil becomes scarcer and more expensive to extract, and the Middle east continues to have political issues the cost of fuel will increase further and the Government will take more and more.
Perhaps this is inevitable as we have to recover from the excesses of the Banking system and the apparent miss management of the countries finances by the Labour government over the past 14 years. (Not to say that the other party's would have done much better)

[JubileeNut]

In Dubai a mini Humber or large range Rover cost £6 to fill up!
That sounds more like it.
I know Dubai has serious money issues but so far they are not putting it on Petrol.
I am sure getting it here does not cost that much, Oh unless the ship is hijacked by Pirates :roll:

[Martec]

Hi Son,

You maybe lucky, or we will all loose out. From the Federation news letter it seems FIVA (the european FBHVC) and the main body arguing for our old vehicle is trying to get a common definition of Historic vehicles using the 30 year old stand point. This may well only be for standard vehicles, but we must wait and see. Being positive I'm sure this will work in our favour.

Brian

[JubileeNut]

Hope hope